tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post6949724762970943929..comments2021-12-30T00:26:53.404-08:00Comments on <a href="http://bdgsoaper.blogspot.com">Knice-N-Clean Soap Blog</a>: Melt & Pour (MP) soap from rebatch material.Knice-N-Clean Soap Companyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18162710996969023568noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-67935882569502884002010-06-21T09:27:29.392-07:002010-06-21T09:27:29.392-07:00Love the steps to my own soap making guide.Yours h...Love the steps to my own soap making guide.Yours have come out brilliant and mine may not but yet the experience is going to be memorable.<br /><a href="http://www.carecleaningandprotection.com" rel="nofollow">Adult Incontinence Products</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-30794414079445490982010-04-02T22:25:59.195-07:002010-04-02T22:25:59.195-07:00I see that you are located in Michigan, I am in Te...I see that you are located in Michigan, I am in Texas. I may be interested in a bulk buy,if the shipping isn't too high and depending on how my experiments come out - that would be very helpful. Is the sorbitol in liquid or granular form? The sorbitol I bought (1.5 kg) is granular, I thought it would save on shipping because it's 100% sorbitol, and I wouldn't be paying for water. Do you make a solution in water before adding to the soap? Agreed on the PPG and ethanol, although for different reasons on each. The sorbitol really seems to be the answer for making good M&P. Thanks, KathyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818774086971363015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-56460693302166979862010-04-02T17:33:06.012-07:002010-04-02T17:33:06.012-07:00Transparent soap is going to require more hardenin...Transparent soap is going to require more hardening ingredients because you will need more alcohol to achieve transparency. We have the same issue with sweating with BDG because of the high ratio of glycerin. I get sorbitol in a 55 gallon drum from a local chemical company, maybe we could go in on a bulk buy or something. I think the sorbitol is key unless you use propylene glycol or ethanol. Both of which have their negative issues.Knice-N-Clean Soap Companyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18162710996969023568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-11345491482938711202010-04-02T10:34:28.740-07:002010-04-02T10:34:28.740-07:00I would like to be able to formulate a transparent...I would like to be able to formulate a transparent soap and an opaque soap, so the answer to your question would be, both. I just found a soap supplier who offers a "natural" M&P that lists the ingredients as saponified organic palm oils (includes stearic acid), organic palm glycerin, and water. In the description, it says that the soap will sweat a bit more that other M&P soaps, due to the high level of glycerin, which is 27%. So I am concluding that there are many ways to make soap into M&P soap: add ingredients that will act as a type of solvent, which makes the soap pourable and smooth in texture, and also lowers the melting point. And of course, the soap has to become hard when it cools, so that it can be used as soap. I'm also waiting for some sorbitan oleate to arrive, I think that it might have a nice contribution to the tactile properties. But that remains to be seen, or felt, as the case is here! Thanks again, I am really enjoying the exchange of ideas here. One last thought: if sorbitol works very well as a solvent, I wonder what else could be used as a solvent, too? I am trying to achieve a very natural product, and though some sorbitol is derived from corn or berries, I had a hard time finding sorbitol to purchase. This isn't a good thing if I formulate with sorbitol and then can't get it anymore.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818774086971363015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-50121991030303577472010-04-02T07:49:32.112-07:002010-04-02T07:49:32.112-07:00Kathy,
Are you shooting for just M&P or transp...Kathy,<br />Are you shooting for just M&P or transparency as well?Knice-N-Clean Soap Companyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18162710996969023568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-25118003650594854392010-04-02T07:48:18.461-07:002010-04-02T07:48:18.461-07:00Kathy,
I too am working on a M&P base from our...Kathy,<br />I too am working on a M&P base from our BDG. What I have found is that the sorbitol works as well or better than the ethanol. I have enough glycerin in my BDG. If the M&P has enough hardening ingredients the soap will stay hard. The sorbitol works to lower the melt point of the soap too. I have ordered some sorbitan oleate, but I hope that I will not need it. A 50:50 ratio of solvents to soaps seems to work well with the sorbitol/glycerin combo. Surprisingly extra water can help too. Another benefit to sorbitol vs ethanol is that the sorbitol will not evaporate out of the soap.Knice-N-Clean Soap Companyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18162710996969023568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-62607053930949236542010-03-30T23:32:49.464-07:002010-03-30T23:32:49.464-07:00There seems to be a delay of several hours before ...There seems to be a delay of several hours before I can see new posts, so I'm not sure if the last one just disappeared or if I'm being too impatient. Also, the "contact us" button gives me an error message - please tell me more about the sorbitol and glycerin version of this formula, and what you considered to be successful (and what wasn't.) Thanks for your help,<br />KathyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818774086971363015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-65260300343687715972010-03-30T18:47:16.378-07:002010-03-30T18:47:16.378-07:00Thanks! With the sorbitol, did you use that instea...Thanks! With the sorbitol, did you use that instead of ethanol? Was this a combo of sorbitol and glycerin that dissolved the melted soap? I have noticed that most all commercially made M&P soaps have added glycerin, sorbitol, sorbitan oleate (a derivative of sorbitol), and some type of protein, either soybean or wheat, as a conditioner. I am trying to formulate my own M&P, so finding your blog has been most helpful!<br /><br />KathyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818774086971363015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-72171529660613800952010-03-30T16:40:53.686-07:002010-03-30T16:40:53.686-07:00I sure can. I used ethanol in this example. Isopr...I sure can. I used ethanol in this example. Isopropyl would work too. I've also played with sorbitol and extra glycerin with some success.Knice-N-Clean Soap Companyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18162710996969023568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773405500766388739.post-3427873433089259562010-03-30T11:09:30.493-07:002010-03-30T11:09:30.493-07:00Hi - can you tell me what kind of alcohol you used...Hi - can you tell me what kind of alcohol you used to dissolve the rebatch soap? I'd like to try this. Very interesting techniques you have here.<br /><br />Kathy W.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818774086971363015noreply@blogger.com